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It Works!:
Chalky Finish on Motorhome:
Re: Firefighters’ Museum Calgary AB RVT 74 pg 35:
Looking for RVT 70:
A Nice State Trooper:
Backing up problems:
Looking for Hydro Flame Corp:
Good and Bad Dealership Experiences:
Battery charging:
Info on Weights:
Re: Wind Deflectors RVT 76 pg 12:
Bad Tire Experience:
Company Praise:
Excellent Service:
Some Nice People:
Quartzite:
Gear Vendor Under/Over Drive:
Re: Drivers License Requirements, RVT 74 pg 8:
BC Good Sam Club:
Itchy Bug Bites:
Solution to bug itch:
Traffic Traps:
Watch out…
We have taken some of the most popular topics, and grouped those letters together on separate pages. This is called the "Tips and Letter Archive" page.

There you'll find letters on
Gross Vehicle Weight,
Insurance,
Sani-stations in BC,
Maintenance for RVs
and
Safety for RVs.



Advice needed:
California Caravan:
Camping, Parks and Other Sites:
Don’t Bend Your Axle:
Odors and mildew:
Re: Gauges, RVT 77pg 9:
Re: Cleaning Tank Gauges with Denture Tablets RVT 77 pg 9:


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It Works!:

Just a note to tell you how many calls I had on my trailer after putting an ad in The RV Times Classifieds Section. I had twelve calls and sold it within four days after the issue came out. Thank you. It works!

D. Hoy
Victoria BC

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Re: Firefighters’ Museum Calgary AB RVT 74 pg 35:

Folks, the Magirus aerial ladder truck mentioned in the museum feature was manufactured in Ulm, Germany, not in Berlin. Magirus is headquartered in Ulm and has been since the late 1800s.

Rodger Birchfield
Owner of Gary, Indiana’s
1927 Magirus aerial ladder

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Looking for RVT 70:

Sheila, I am looking for a few copies of your issue #70, July/August 1999. I would be very grateful if you had some.

John McDonald
"The Embers Guy"
12148 Makinson St
Maple Ridge BC V2X 9B3

John,

I am sorry but I do not have any left of number 70 but I bet my readers can help, so here’s the plea.

Cheers,
Sheila

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Looking for Hydro Flame Corp:

We noticed in one of your E-mail messages a name and address for Hydro Flame Corp. However, there wasn’t a phone number with it. Does anyone have a phone number for Hydro Flame Corp. in Utah?? We tried to get it through Utah information, but they didn’t find a listing. Any help as soon as possible would be much appreciated.

Joe and Merf
Nevada

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Battery charging:

Further to the articles in the September/October issue of The RV Times, by Spencer Evens, (Hi! Spence) and Bob Martin, covering mainly solar panels but also alluding to alternators, there are additional alternatives to solar panels for charging batteries.

The main one is the high output alternator, coupled with good three stage external regulator, which acts in much the same way as a good battery charger, such as the one available in the Legend.

Most common engines can easily be fitted with 100 amp alternator. Some, such as the Balmar marine alternator, have two extra poles, and produce power even at an idle. The only downside to this is that an alternator driven tachometer will read fast but can usually be adjusted. The positive side is that they really "kick butt" when it comes to battery charging.

Room is always a problem, but anyone with the ability to fit two Group27 batteries, has more than enough room to accommodate two six volt deep cycle golf cart batteries for the "house". These are ruggedly built to withstand constant deep cycling, (unlike some batteries that are marked "Deep Cycle", but are hybrid batteries with starting cold cranking amp ratings also marked on the top).

These two gold cart batteries connected in series, will give a 12 volt d.c. output with a 225 amp/hour capacity, about the same as a deep cycle 8D, but much easier to handle.

No battery should ever run below 50% of its capacity, so a 100 amp/hour discharge with two gold carts is quite achievable, and should keep your furnace running properly overnight, even in below zero weather. (There’s nothing worse than waking up at 5 a.m. with the furnace fan blowing cold air because there is not enough battery voltage to excite the igniter – and about that time the red light on the fridge is also blinking for the same reason.) Been there, done that, read the book, saw the movie, went on the ride, bought the T-shirt.

Assuming, when dry camping, that 100 amp/hours have been consumed from the battery, a small solar panel will have a really bad time in recovering that sort of deficit. The three stage in your inverter, (or the stand-alone one should you not have an inverter) will do a job of re-charging, assuming you can plug in to shore power very soon.

On an extended trip this may not be possible, and this is where the external regulator comes in. Arguably the best, although the most expensive, is the Balmar MC612, a new generation regulator with digital LED readout of the functions. Unlike a normal single stage internal regulator, this type of regulator does not do a thing for the first 30 seconds, allowing the engine and belt to warm up. After that time, the charge is loaded 50% of capacity available from the alternator. This output will vary depending on temperature, engine revs, etc.

At highway speeds, the charge rate should be high, so that the battery reaches about 82% of capacity quickly, (the bulk charge) going into an absorption charge, then into a float charge where the alternator voltage output is only slightly higher than the "at rest" battery voltage. It is quite reasonable to expect that from 50% discharge of the battery, it will only take about 1.5 hours for complete recharge. This will allow "short hopping" between campsites.

When dry camping in the same spot, with the engine at a fast idle it should not take much longer, and although it does place more wear and tear on the main engine, it does preclude the extra expense for a generator.

The bottom line is, given the much higher demands on power placed by microwaves, furnaces, etc, nothing, whether solar panel, inverter/charger, or advanced alternator/regulator is completely dispensable in a perfect set-up. The more ammunition you have to throw at the problem, the more effective you’ll be. And then you should really be a happy camper.

Tom E. Alexander
Nanaimo BC

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Some Nice People:

I wanted to let your readers know about some nice people. My hubby, 88 year old mother, and I were on our way to Saskatchewan, travelling along Highway 3. We made it up the big "hill" out of Osoyoos, with a 30 minute stop to cool down our engine. Coming down the hill into Rock Creek our truck lost all power. We coasted into a Petro-Can station only to find that they had no mechanic or facilities for repairs. I got on the phone to BCAA. Andrew from Granton Motors was there in two minutes, looked under the hood, and was sure it was our front seal. He towed our truck to his garage.

Our trailer was in the middle of the driveway; it was a hot day, about 30°, or so. I was getting stressed out, trying not to show it because of my mother.

Andrew said, "There is an RV camp a couple of kilometers from my garage. Do you want me to call them and see if they can help out?"

"Sure," we said.

Within twenty minutes, Chris, the owner of the Kettle River RV Park was hooking up our trailer to his truck. "Hop in the cab," Chris said. The cab was air conditioned; what relief we felt already.

Chris put our trailer on a site and did all our hookups, telling my hubby to relax. Chris then took hubby to our truck to get some gear. After unloading the gear, Chris said, "Please let me know if you need anything."

Chris checked with us from time to time to see how the truck repairs were coming. We stayed three days at the park, as the truck part had to come from Edmonton.

This park is on Highway 3 on the Kettle River, very clean grounds, washrooms and showers. They even have chickens, and you can buy fresh eggs.

Barb, Chris’s wife, came by to let us know that if we had to stay past the checkout time, we wouldn’t be charged extra. We didn’t know the exact time our truck would be finished on Friday. (It was 3:00 pm before we could leave.)

Chris and Barb are very lovely caring people, and we recommend this park to all RV Times readers.

P.S.: We found Andrew to be a good honest mechanic. He told us upfront what the problem could be, and the cost of repairs. There were no surprises for us.

Doreen Wiens
Happy RVer of Delta BC

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Itchy Bug Bites:

I want to share a little tidbit with your readers.

We are from Texas, 100 miles east of Houston, where we have a lot of mosquitoes. We find that when we are bitten, Gillette Right Guard spray deodorant will stop the itching. This also works on ant stings. We used it while we were in Alaska this summer.

Don & Mary Ann Schram
Vidor TX
COBIAKING1@aol.com

Solution to bug itch:

I was reading in the latest issue of The RV Times, and noticed that Al is allergic to bugs, and you are to repellants. I have found an item that may interest you. It is a French made item called Therapic. It works on heat and nullifies the venom in the bite. It works on all bites except for spider and snake. It is sold through Lee Valley for about $24 and I have seen it in Shoppers Drug-mart for $17 It really works. Hope this helps.

Glenn Stenson
gstenson@uniserve.com

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California Caravan:

I plan to make a three or four week trip this winter down the Oregon coast to California in my motorhome. Areas of interest to me are State Parks, the wine district and the Salton sea. I am hoping your readers can put me in touch with an RV organization or group with similar interests who might have similar plans. A group of three or four motorhomes or trailers would make the trip more fun and can be helpful in case of problems.

Jock Lefebure
Victoria BC
250-658-1916 • jvl@coastnet.com

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Don’t Bend Your Axle:

Here’s something not included in RV manuals that I learned at Pacific Axle.

When raising an axle on the trailer to change a tire, don’t put your jack just anywhere under the axle. Put it under the spring pad where it joins the axle.

Putting it elsewhere on an axle that just meets the load rating, could and probably would, result in a bent spindle and a change in camber of the axle.

George McKenzie
Quesnel BC

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Odors and mildew:

Many years ago we had the same problem with fridge, freezer, and a bad chicken odour.

We tried everything. We went to a fridge company where one of the employees heard our problem and advised, after washing down, to use imitation vanilla. Place a small dish of vanilla in the fridge, leave for a day, change and then do it again till the smell is gone.

Re mildew problems: use straight bleach and lots of elbow grease, then wash off. We used this on the outside of our boat for years. It worked for us.

"After five" Henduns

PS: We enjoy your magazine very much.

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Re: Gauges, RVT 77pg 9:

I had the same problem all summer and have tried numerous things to no avail, until we were leaving Kent, Washington. As I was draining my tanks the gauges were reading 3/4 full all summer. I decided to try running hot water in the gray water tank and letting it set for about a half hour. While waiting I had the wife put about four or five small pails of hot water into the black tank. After waiting a bit I started draining them, and, lo and behold, the gauges read empty.

Maybe this might help the other people having the same problem.

Sheila, thank you for the best RV magazine in the business!

Steve Kimball
steve_kimball@telus.net

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Chalky Finish on Motorhome:

My concern today is restoring the finish on my motorhome.

I recently bought a 1991 Itasca Class A motorhome. Unfortunately, it has seen too much sun in Arizona and Mexico. The finish is very badly faded and chalky. I’ve tried using Gel Gloss to restore the finish, but alas it only lasts a few days, or until it rains, then goes back to being dull and chalky. Can anyone refer me to anyone who knows how to restore the fiberglass finish? I understand that it’s quite a job. I bought an electric polisher to help ease the arms and shoulders. Unfortunately I’ve no idea which polish to use.

Duane Ball
collegeprof@infoserve.net

Folks,

Whoever can help Duane out, please also email me the answer, so I can tell the rest of the folks in my next issue.

Sheila

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A Nice State Trooper:

One day in 1992, while travelling east in Illinois on US Highway 30, we spent the night on the outskirts of Rock Falls. In the morning after breakfast, we continued east on Hwy 30.

We had only gone a couple of blocks when the traffic was stopped. After waiting a few minutes, I assumed it was because of an accident up ahead. Just then I noticed a big State Trooper coming down the line of cars. He stopped at each car as he came to it.

When he reached our car, he stopped in front of the car looking at our BC license plate, then he came to my window and, leaning down with a great big smile, said in his friendliest voice, "Now how am I going to direct you around this without you nice folks getting lost?"

After wondering just how I was going to get around the problem, we left there with our spirits lifted by those few words from that State Trooper.

Earl F. Gillcash
Mission BC
glenkirk@pacificcoast.net

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Info on Weights:

I’m looking at buying a 5th wheel and am really confused as to what size I can buy.

I was originally considering anywhere from a 26 to 28ft late 80’s to early 90’s model and thought my truck could handle it without any problems except maybe being a little sluggish on fairly steep uphill grades such as the Malahat or Alberni hump as we won’t be leaving Vancouver Island with it very often at all.

The truck is an 1989 F250 4x4 with a 5.0L (302) 5 speed. The RV dealers tell me one thing and the Ford dealer tells me something totally different. If I went with what the Ford dealer tells me I don’t think I could pull an 18ft 5th wheel. I really don’t understand the weight differences.

Frank Novak
novakf@home.com

Frank,

The ICBC Vehicle Weight Page is at www.icbc.com/geton/gross_f.html

On Vancouver Island, the Central Island RCMP Highway Patrol maintains an RV Web site at www.island.net/~cihp/rv.html

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Bad Tire Experience:

We had a bad experience with some new tires. It brought up a problem I had never even thought of before, so I would like to pass on a warning to other Canadians who drive their RVs down south a lot.

We put a new set of six Michelin tires on our F350 in June, so by the time we reached Florida in November, the mileage on them was still fairly low. Yet, during the month of December, we had to replace both those tires, and at no small cost! What had cost us $147 Can. cost almost $200 US, but what really bothered us was that Michelin would not take any responsibility for the defective tires. In fact, when I described how the inside and outside sections of the tire had completely separated, one lady at customer service said "Oh yes, we’re familiar with that problem", but although they were familiar with it, that did not mean they were willing to do anything about it!

Apparently tires bought in Canada come with a warranty, but when you buy tires in the U.S. you must purchase this warranty separately. Michelin is aware that there is a discrepancy between the warranty situations in Canada and the US, but says there is nothing they can do about it as they are completely different companies. If that is so, then why do their corporate letterhead and their envelopes read "Michelin North America?" Last time I looked, Canada, the US, and Mexico were all part of North America. Nobody expects any company to turn out perfect products every time; that isn’t reasonable. I think that it is a company’s responsibility to replace any of their products which turn out to be defective, warranty or not!

We carried those damaged tires back to Canada with us, and when the local Michelin rep looked at them, they replaced them right away. But by then we had already had to pay out excessive sums for new tires, and find room to carry the defective ones back with us, so I think a word of warning to others is called for. If you plan to drive in the US frequently, it is probably a good idea to buy your tires at a multinational dealer who will cover any problems for you wherever you are. Next time we buy tires, I will check with the dealer to make sure they will extend our warranty to the US. I think places such as Sears, Wal-Mart, or Costco will do that.

Colette Cashmore
White Rock BC

It is interesting to read the terms of warranties - Michelin North America (Canada) Inc.'s warranty on Passenger and Light Truck tires can be viewed online at
www.michelin.ca/ca/eng/local/garantie/p1.htm
This warranty states "Quality & workmanship warranty is applicable in Canada and the United States." although many of the other terms and benefits are listed as Canada only.

Carry a folder with you with copies of all of the purchase receipts and the warranties for RV gear and major equipment. Besides being required for warranty claims (and rebutting a shop's refusal to honour a manufacturer's warranty) it is good to have the Canadian proof of purchase if you are ever inspected by Customs.

Also check out your credit cards - some cards offer 90 day replacement insurance and automatic manufacturer's warranty doubling up to an extra year when you pay for the goods with that card - which may be worthwhile.
I use the CIBC regular VISA card for all durable-goods purchases for this coverage.

Trevor
RVT Webmaster

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Quartzite:

Hope you will be able to tell me when the RV Show starts in Quartzite 2001. We are heading south approx. Oct.15th and I am trying to set up dates to meet friends there at that time. They will not be leaving until Jan/2001 so needs to be done before then.

Betty Hackett
rbhackett@telus.net

Betty,

Here’s information from the Quartzite Shows Web page: www.quartzsitervshow.org/rvshow.htm

"18th Annual Sports, Vacation and RV Show, January 20th through 28th, 2001.

The largest gathering of RVs and RVers anywhere in the World! FREE admission to the public! Estimated attendance 100,000 plus! 20 acre facility with FREE exhibitor and FREE public day parking!"

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Gear Vendor Under/Over Drive:

We have a 1989 Ford Econoline with 7.3 diesel under a Vanguard 2nd generation 25 foot motorhome. It has a Gear Vendor Under/Over Drive. Am I supposed to have a lock-up sensation as I drive? I don’t recall any.

Gerald D. Nelson
gdnelson@telusplanet.net

Gerald,

The Gear Vendors under/over drive cannot give you a lock-up feeling. Think of it as a gear splitter; no matter whether you’re in regular or hi-range, your transmission is still engaging and shifting normally. If there is a lock-up from the transmission, then something is likely wrong in the transmission, and should be checked.

Mark Perkins
Performance Assist

You can read more about this unit on the Web at: www.performancetruckandrv.com/gear.htm

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BC Good Sam Club:

I have revised our BC Good Sam Club Website to now include registration forms for our Spring and Fall Meetings and Samboree. These registration forms can be printed from our Website and mailed in, a convenience for those that don’t have access to them.

Also anyone wanting to join the Good Sam Club, join an existing Chapter (a list of Chapters and contacts is also shown,) or look into having a Chapter formed in their area, please feel free to contact any of the Assistant Directors shown on our Website.

Our Website can be found at: www.mypage.uniserve.ca/~rebel1/index.html

Grant Workman
Assistant Director
1-800-234-3450

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Traffic Traps:

I’m going to Florida next month, and read somewhere about small town speed traps.

Do you know what towns to avoid on My trip south?

Ted Bartrim

Watch out…TRAFFIC TRAPS AND STRICT ENFORCEMENT AREAS:

U.S. 301 between Gainesville and Jacksonville. The towns of Waldo and Lawtey are designated as "Traffic Traps." Caution is advised.

Big Pine Key, located between Key West and Marathon, is a strict Enforcement Area. Caution is advised.

Three strict Enforcement Areas are located near Stuart: Indian River Drive, Sewalls Point Road, and A-1-A to Hutchinson Island. Use caution around these areas.

These areas are still designated as Traffic Traps, so please use caution and watch your speed through these areas.

Phil Philcox
Florida

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Camping, Parks and Other Sites:

Over the last few years my wife and I have seen a rapid increase in fees for our parks, provincial and federal, and now are moving our business toward commercial campsites in this province. I recall W.A.C. Bennett stating that parks are our heritage to enjoy (and should be free, and were 50¢) and now our parks charge fees equal to, and often exceeding, those of private sites. On the private sites, you can have hookups and other amenities, and often a view of the lake or ocean, rather than dark woods and pit toilets.

Granted, many tourists are here to experience living in the "wilds," but when I went to Miracle Beach I was hoping to see the beach, not trees, and we went to a private site, right on the water for $10 – compared to $18 at the park.

We went out to Long Beach late in September, having been there 30 years before, and paid $18 for a site 1/2 mile in the bush. We were advised that if one leaves the campsite one pays an additional $8.00 to park near the water! (WHAT?)

Now, our Forest Service is attempting to charge for the rustic campsites that for 40 years were free to us all, and as an ex Forest Service employee, that gripes!

Travelling from our home in the Cariboo to the coast, usually in winter, it is annoying to see most rest areas blocked off, as well as the parks gated shut until one gets down to the U.S.A. or back to Alberta. Why? Is someone afraid of losing a few dollars from the odd person who may stop en route?

After 50 years of tent camping, VW bussing, truck campering and finally 20 years of motorhoming, crossing the continent six times, stopping in parks, dam sites, truck stops and parking lots, it appears to me that our parks branch sees the tourist as a rich "cash cow" that has to be milked.

P.S. Have you seen the fares for BC Ferries for over-height, weekend and long weekend crossing to the Island — WHOOEEZ!! and we measure in at 28 ft.

PP.S. Along with land travel we have been boaters for just as long, and have traveled from Alaska to the Bahamas in our own vessel. We have never in those 50 years been charged to anchor off a shore in this country, the US, or the Bahamas. In marinas we pay per foot, but usually have deluxe washrooms and, in many cases, a free car to go shopping. This usually costs about $18 US per night.

Ray Jefferson
150 Mile House BC

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Backing up problems:

Re Star McEachern’s backing up problems — I’m sure we’ve all been there at one time or another.

As a "new" old 5th wheel driver my son became exasperated at my backing up capabilities and suggested the following: It’s easy, use your mirrors! If you look in your right mirror and can see your trailer, turn INTO your trailer, (turn right) and it will move to your left.

Conversely, if you look into your left mirror and can see your trailer, turn into the trailer, (turn left) and it will move to your right. Simply stated, turn into the trailer you can see and it will move the other way. Hope this helps STAR "SHINE"

Rod Spenst
Christina Lake BC

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Good and Bad Dealership Experiences:

We purchased a 26' Vanguard 5th wheel in 1997. Although we love our unit, we got little support from our dealer when we ran into the inevitable problems with a new unit. We stopped in to see them last year and discovered they no longer handled Vanguard products.

I wrote Peak Manufacturing of North Battleford, Saskatchewan [Manufacturer of Vanguards] and Mr. Brad Caplan put us on to their new dealer in Chilliwack, Cottonwood RV.

We made a trip out to Chilliwack and met Mr. Bob Menges. We made an appointment to get our unit into their shop. We were having trouble with the slide-out. The service we received was exceptional, no more excuses about batteries etc. They looked at the problem and fixed it.

Peak Manufacturing has to be commended for backing up their product and choosing a reliable dealer in the Lower Mainland. We really like to buy Canadian, because it is creating jobs in our country and also we have found the Canadian units are built better.

Thank you Peak Manufacturing for backing up your product and thank you Cottonwood RV for being so co-operative and reliable. After the treatment we had received it restored our faith in humanity!

Fred Moss

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Re: Wind Deflectors RVT 76 pg 12:

I don’t think Bill’s to Wayne Spencer relating to wind deflectors was good advice.

If you had a wind tunnel in which to place a pick-up truck and a fifth wheel trailer, it may be possible, after locating the deflector in various positions on the truck roof and by trying many angles of the deflector in each position, to find an installation that would increase gas mileage by a very small amount.

If you check your computer for issues of Trailer Life magazine, I think, from about five to ten years ago, you may find an article on this subject that involved experts in the automotive field. My comments above are based on my recollection of this article.

I am not very knowledgeable on wind loading, however, my rough calculations for a wind deflector located on the roof of a vehicle, and measuring 16 inches by 5 feet and mounted at an angle of 60 degrees above horizontal, could result in a wind load up to 5 horsepower at a vehicle speed of 50 miles per hour.

This loss of towing power, and the resulting decrease in fuel mileage, may be eliminated if the deflector was more of a half-round shape and was attached very close to, or even sealed to, the front of the trailer. This type of design can be seen on many highway semis and on many van type trucks.

T. G. Bird
Chilliwack BC

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Company Praise:

We really enjoy The RV Times, and the BC Question of the Month column.

They’ve done it again - fixed another RVOABC member’s RV cruise control at a very responsible price.

We are talking about Jack Daily and his Anglo Canadian Automotive Ltd company at 1495 Frances St in Vancouver. They fixed the cruise control in our 1994 Slumber Queen Ford for $106.00 total.

It did not work when we bought the Class C in 1997. The Dealer had it fixed, however a year later it’s cruise control stopped working again. We got no satisfaction talking to this dealer or the outfit that fixed it before. We could not even get an estimate to fix it from two Ford dealerships we had talked to.

Anglo Canadian also fixed the air conditioner in my friend’s older 1988 model for $178.00, other quotes were for $1300.00.

Betty & Bob Mantil

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Excellent Service:

No one wants to have RV or tow vehicle problems on their holidays, but it happens!

While staying at the friendly Claybanks RV Park in Merritt BC, my husband and our travelling companion noticed that we had a problem with the back axle on our 5th wheel. Early the next morning my husband set out to see what could be done to fix us up. One of the local establishments he stopped at suggested he contact Merritt Machine Works Ltd., so off he went. He returned a short time later with Pat McCormick, the Assistant Manager. Pat took a look and showed my husband that the trailer springs were causing our problem. He also felt that the bent axle could be straightened. Most important to us, he could start the repairs right away.

True to his word, Pat and his associates straightened the axle and put in new springs once they arrived from Kamloops. When we pulled out of the work bay, they noticed something that they weren’t satisfied with and asked us to return to the bay. Realizing that it was already an hour after their quitting time, we offered to come back in the morning, but they all said, "No way we’ll let you go; not until we’re happy with the repair."

Another hour passed and a few modifications were made. When 110% satisfaction was achieved, Pat sent us off to meet our friends. We went away with a surprisingly modest bill and a new appreciation for the small town businessman.

Thank you, Pat and associates at Merritt Machine Works Ltd. for your professionalism, courtesy and honesty. They were outstanding!

Charles and Sandra Power
Surrey BC

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Re: Drivers License Requirements, RVT 74 pg 8:

While reading a back issue of The RV Times I spotted a letter from Ron & Roberta Pivovar outlining the complicated process which has to be followed in order to obtain a Restriction 20 driver’s license to tow a 5th wheel over 4600kg. I actually have my Restriction 20 Class 5 license, and I can confirm that obtaining it was a frustrating experience.

Firstly, neither the dealer selling me the 37 foot, 6506kg fifth wheel, nor the dealer selling me the Ford F550 diesel dually to haul it, nor the insurance agent who later insured the combination, nor ICBC, ever informed me that I needed a special license. I found out purely by chance while scanning the ICBC Website early last summer.

Secondly, once I realized I was driving illegally, I had a terrible time convincing anybody at ICBC, or the major Vancouver area driving schools, or the Motor Vehicle Branch that I needed to get a Restriction 20. Nobody seemed to know how to do it, and I was quoted prices as high as $1,500 for Class 1 or 3 airbrake courses that I didn’t need. Every one of the major driving schools, and several operators on the help line at ICBC, told me I DID NOT NEED A SPECIAL LICENSE.

Finally, the Shawnee Driving School in Surrey helped me. The owner, Neil, sorted out the procedure with Victoria. Then I studied the Class 3 driving manual, passed the test to get my interim license, and took two hours of driving instruction with my rig, all for a total cost of less than $200. This was followed by the driving test, and I received my special license in late August.

Like Ron and Roberta though, I agree that there should be a SPECIAL course for those of us who tow large fivers. We don’t need airbrake instruction, and we don’t need to know how to tie down oil drums on the back of a flatbed truck! Hopefully those who sell the rigs, the tow vehicles, and the insurance, will soon face up to the fact that some rigs require a Restriction 20 and will begin lobbying the Motor Vehicles Branch to develop a special course and test for an RV license.

Ted White
Whitetmp@aol.com
North Vancouver

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Advice needed:

I’ve been reading your magazine for the past year or so, and have enjoyed the articles immensely.

Having been RV’ers on the water so to speak for the last seven years, and with our boat now up for sale, we have been doing some "real" thinking as to what direction to go. Boating is great, lots of places to go, no traffic jams and with a sailboat, it’s really economical. The big drawback is weather. With only certain weeks to holiday if it rains, blows or just plain unpleasant, your holiday time is ruined and of course the weather is just grand upon returning to port.

RV’ers on the other hand if the weather sucks, you keep moving until you find good stuff or maybe a storm is ok too (as you certainly won’t be kept away by the RV rocking or the dingy banging against the hull).

Our dilemma of course is TOO MANY CHOICES! We are hoping to get some good advice from present RV’ers.

My husband is looking for the most economical way to travel and the most confort. For me just the idea of being on the road again (lots of road travel as a kid) with a map in hand and new areas to explore makes me giddy with excitement.

So any advice from those of you who have done a lot of traveling. What’s the best way to go, motorhome, 5th wheel and truck, small truck and light trailer, diesel, gas, gas and propane. Is all fuel readily available throughout the country’s US and Mexico?

We are just starting to look now for the size of unit we want, and by the spring (I’m sure the boat will be sold by then) we will most likely be ready to purchase.

Any of you who would like to give us your expert advice, e-mail us at dkovasin@hotmail.com

Thanx for your help and we look forward to your responses with appreciation

Dianne Kovasin
Campbell River BC

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Re: Cleaning Tank Gauges with Denture Tablets RVT 77 pg 9:

This method works for us.

Just prior to a trip I pour one or two gallons of water into an empty tank, then add several denture tablets. While driving, the solution sloshes around in the tank, and cleans the sensors as well as the tank.

Art Beamish

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